Aside from that... nothing's happened. You know, there's only so much of Karl doing nothing I can report before... I don't know. Something or other happens. Wait, no, technically nothing happens, because he's doing nothing... forget I said anything, actually.
Seriously, though... It's kinda a bad sign that the sporadic moments of chaos caused by exploits are really the only amusement we get around here. That, and drama, which is probably worse. The worst part is, though, that if you remove all the staff from the site, and then remove all the experienced players and leave the site to the noobs... the site would be exactly the same as before. Just, seriously, it wouldn't make a difference. Think about it.
Anyway, this is going to be the final entry on the world of
So, let's recap. In the first entry, we've established that impossible namelessness land is... impossible. I bet you never could have figured that out by yourself. Yeah... In the second entry, we've determined that quests are completely pointless and illogical, and that W-H is worse than Pong. In all seriousness, I'm not entirely sure if I can top that insult...
Regardless, today we're looking at the enemies. As mentioned before, the animals on W-H appear to be unintelligent items of food. Like... exactly what they are now. Hey! We found something on W-H that makes sense! It's a miracle!
Oh, wait... it only makes sense in the context of our world. In namelessness land, it makes no sense at all, because if wolves are intelligent then there's really no reason why other animals shouldn't be. I mean, wolves are canines, right? So if they're intelligent, all canines should be. And if we're going by evolutionary theory (assuming that evolution in namelessness land exists and a wizard didn't create the universe), then technically everything is related and the vast majority of the animals should be intelligent. And while we're at it, I suppose the plants should be intelligent too. But whatever.
So, sorry to disappoint you, but there's not actually anything that makes sense here. I know, I was excited for a moment too...
Anyway, the animals tend to ignore climate, apparently, since we've got creatures that shouldn't exist on the same continent as each other. However, I'm going to pass on that, since that's probably just for the sake of having variety, and there's no real guarantee that it's not possible in namelessness land. Besides, it's too easy.
So... what do these animals in impossible namelessness land do? Nothing. They stand there until you try and kill them. We don't even get any mention of them doing anything, aside from a few quests which complain about populations and such. Apparently natural instincts are bad things or something.
But still, there's no motivation to kill them. Now, personally, I would think that if I was a wolf, and I had a choice, I'd prefer one or two animals as food. Like, big game, maybe. But here, we've got no more reason to kill a mouse than a bear, aside from XP (which isn't something to be thought of in the game world context here). Some of the animals we can kill wolves don't even eat - I mean, a wolf literally can't eat a penguin. So... kill for mindless slaughter?
Speaking of killing, I'm going to go off on a tangent here. Karl makes W-H to be politically correct. Yes, I'm serious. All the quests were suggested by players, right? He actually went through them all and removed the word 'kill' from any of them. Instead it's defeat, or something along those lines. When you win a battle, you defeat your enemy. Not kill it. He even once mentioned he'd considered changing the respawn timer to a 'recovery' timer. I'm not making this up.
The word 'kill' isn't anywhere in the official text onsite (except I think a taco quest; it was back when I did it months ago. That is, if there was a taco quest). So the site goes out of its way to avoid killing. How are we supposed to interpret this? Do you actually not kill anything? You're a carnivore. You fetch Byz food. You 'reduce' the populations of animals. How the hell are you doing this without killing?
Besides, how many of you would be offended if the word 'kill' actually showed up on W-H? I mean, the players refer to it as that anyway. There's never been a single person complaining about it. And yet, we must be politically correct. Hell, wolves and coyotes are both canines, right? Karl initially refused to add coyotes because apparently people would complain about 'killing' canines. Except, like, we had a poll on it and no one gave a shit about it.
So, Karl is obviously very much against any implication of killing things on his site. About carnivores. Despite the fact that it's irrelevant. Does this strike you as stupid? Oh, also...
The word 'kill' isn't allowed in quest text. Human arms? That's fine! And remember, this is a staff artist we're talking about here. And Karl allowed this. Hypocritical much?
You know, that wasn't really relevant to this entry... but hey, if you expected sanity, you came to the wrong place. It does point out the flaw of whether or not we kill things. Sure, it's heavily implied in the game world, but if Karl is against it... how are we supposed to know? It's a complete contradiction. Who do we listen to? It's completely absurd either way...
Oh, and let's take a moment on Vlad. Unlike the rest of the enemies, he has a name. Is he intelligent, then? We don't know. If not, wolves must have named him. Actually, even if he is, wolves named him, because we wouldn't know whatever he calls himself. But still... named enemies are important 99% of the time in games. Instead, we've got no info on him... at all. But I've covered that before, so I'll let it go with that.
Basically, we don't know why the enemies exist, why we kill them (if we do kill), why killing a million mice allows you to take out a gorilla, etc. Heck, why are macaws better than bears? Why can we kill roadrunners if a certain coyote tried for years and never even got one? There's just endless questions here, none with a good explanation.
The biggest one, though, is this: why? In other words, what's your motivation to do anything in this world? Nothing, from quests to enemies to the world itself, has the answer to that question. It's pointless.
I'll use the rest of this entry for the conclusion, from what we've seen in all three entries...
The home page of W-H reads as following: "Wolf-Haven is an original non-forum based wolf RPG". Really? I think not. Let's look at this.
Is W-H original? Not really. The 'original' part most people refer to when talking about how other sites aren't like W-H is the concept. What could have been. What we didn't get. Because, honestly? The W-H we have now isn't original. The complete lack of any plotline or reason to play a game? Not original. Pac-Man was more original than the W-H we currently have.
The non-forum-based part... well, it should have another hyphen, like I put in. But aside from me being a grammar Nazi... I disagree. Nobody plays the game. We hang out on the forums and the chatbox. They see way more activity than the map. Let's just throw that out. Besides, it sounds like it's saying forum RPs suck. I've been in some good ones; honestly, a proboards forum would probably give you more entertainment than W-H. And you don't even have to pay for an RP forum.
Let's go with the wolf part for a second. Replace all the wolves with dead pedophiles. Assume the questgivers and art change. Is the site different? No. It makes absolutely no difference at all, except in what you can have as customs, which isn't really part of the site. In fact, it might make more sense game-wise. I mean, dead pedophiles don't require a habitable planet or anything. So I don't think we can use any sort of label here, because it doesn't matter at all what the characters are. It makes no difference.
Then we've got the RP part. There's no roleplay here. I made that very clear last time. If you've ever played a PC and/or console RPG, you'll acknowledge the truth of that. If you've never played an RPG... what the hell are you doing reading this? Go buy KOTOR. Or Mass Effect. Or something along those lines. And do it now. Seriously, life without RPGs is boring...
So all we've got left is the 'G' - game. Is W-H a game? Well, games are supposed to be fun and interesting. They're supposed to have a point, and they're supposed to be winnable (and maybe losable). Do we have any of those things? No. So I don't think it's a stretch to say that W-H doesn't even qualify as a game.
So now we have 'Wolf-Haven is a(n) ______________'. What should go there? Waste of space? Monumental disappointment? Stupendous waste of potential? Excuse for Storm to be overly wordy? Get rich quick scheme by Karl? Website with no content except dead pedophiles? Refuge of heretics who refuse to acknowledge the power of the Raisin Muffin?
I don't really know. Why don't you think about it for a while? Heck, if you want, leave your answers in the comments. Maybe you can find some amusement from it. It's certainly more than you'll get playing the game itself.

10 comments:
Honestly, you seem to be putting way too much thought into all of this. And your 'information' in the blog is biased by your own opinion and views.
Wolf-Haven, if you didn't know (and I know you ultimately don't give a shit) is still a beta website. It isn't /anywhere/ near complete.
Your being overly critical. Give this site some time to mature before you start bashing on it. And by bashing, yes, I do mean that your doing that. You may qualify your blog as being 'true' and 'tough love' and all that jazz, but really, it's not.
Try being a little unbiased, please. You'll actually look a little professional, even if minescual.
Sorry, Chesh, but I have to disagree with that. If you take the time to think about it, Stormgaze has a point. Honestly, if Karl planned to wait this long to start working on the website, why the hell were 10,000 registrations accepted? A "Beta" website is a closed website where members can buy accounts and test it out - that is NOT Wolf-Haven. WH is falling apart. Our staff are inactive, Karl doesn't do anything aside from throwing the banhammer around and whining when people don't like something. I've considered up-and-leaving multiple times, to be honest. I'm surprised that Storm hasn't left, actually. It just breaks my heart to see a website that could potentially be good fall apart because Karl doesn't do anything. He's shoved away some of our best members (Zanna, for example. Perhaps she bitched at Seasonal a bit, and perhaps she bitched in the forums, but she does less bitching than the n00bs), hasn't bothered to remove Sunset's XP (and Stormgaze has already made it quite obvious that Coren_Venom botted). Heck, I'm sure Kyprus botted, and Karl doesn't even care. If he didn't have enough time to run a website, he shouldn't have started one. I understand that he has a real life, but if his life was that busy, he shouldn't have started WH. I'm sorry, but an inactive site admin doesn't look nice.
-Mystery Poster
P.S. I am loving the fact that I can comment anonymously, because it's let me express my true feelings. xD The only thing that could possibly give me away is my lack of n00b talk, and at this point I don't really care.
My BLOG is biased. Seriously? My blog, which is, by the definition, 'a website containing the writer's own opinions' (among other things) is biased.
Dear god, yes, it's biased! Do you want to point out that it's in English, too?
Not that said bias is a bad thing. I mean, there's hardly any unbiased content in existence these days, aside from math. So you can't exactly object to bias in my entry; I mean, your comment has just as much. Besides, it's not like I've got an major bias against W-H - I'm not trying to advertise another site or anything, am I?
And I don't think I'm being overly critical or overthinking this, or anything. Yes, I'm aware of the MST3k Mantra, but I don't think it applies here. W-H claims to be an RPG. What do you want me to compare it to, Wajas? Neopets? First person shooters?
W-H is violating the willful suspension of disbelief on so many levels. You can't just say 'don't think about it' on anything that should be common sense, nor can you just say 'you're criticizing too much' when I point out flaws. Yes, I most definitely am criticizing it. But said criticism is completely deserved. Besides, I'm entitled to my opinion, just like you are.
And as our mystery guest pointed out (sometimes I worry about how many stalkers I have), Karl's had plenty of time. You want me to give more time? I've been here longer than you, and there really isn't that much different from when I first started playing.
Nor would Karl have to personally do all this. I mean, we have a map editor. Build a quest one to go with it. Have a staff member do some quests. He could delegate. I'm not criticizing anyone for failing to do the impossible here...
Karlos didn't shove away Zanna for a long shot xD She was banned for rude things directed at WH members in her profile. In fact, Karl had absolutely NOTHING to do with what went on. Zanna just doesnt know when to stop.
And lemme quote what I wrote in chat just 5 seconds ago...
"Oh Jesus Christ... Now I want to tell y'all something. It seems like a ton of people take Karlos the wrong way. And I'm saying this here- I don't care if chat ain't an appropriate place to post this or not. *Just because you haven't seen Karlos doing anything doesn't mean he hasn't. Just because he hasn't logged on doesn't mean he isn't here*. Karlos does a ton of things behind the scenes. And he's balancing v1.2 to top it off. A lot of what goes on around here is behind the scenes. "
I hate to be so rude and blunt, but most regular WH members don't know about half the stuff that goes on in WH. Karlos has done so much and it makes me SICK when people toss it aside as 'nothing'. Because those of you that do don't know what the hell your talking about. Just because the signs aren't in front of your face doesn't mean they don't happen. If y'all are going to bitch about Karl then gtfo. Jump in his place. Try to run Wolf haven and see if you can pull it off as bloody brilliantly as he has. Really, people who take others for granted seriously make me want to shoot someone. How can y'all be so ignorant to what goes on? Do staff and Karl need to write down every single thing they do just so you know that they re actually doing something?
Alright, back to my original point.
Wolf-Haven isn't anywhere near completed.
This is like children complaining that they want ice-cream when the ice-cream shop hasn't even finished being built yet. :/ Your going to have to be patient.
*In her messages, not on her profile
If I ran Wolf-Haven, I'd at least be active. You know, it would help if he added new content or actually did something. We've had nothing new since September. We're not even an RPG. I don't know about you, but before I coded the Map, I would have actually bothered to write a plot.
Oh for christs sake. I hate repeating myself but, /just because Karlos hasn't logged on doesn't mean he isn't here./
Do you know that Staff have the ability to appear offline? Or perhaps that it might be possible that Karl has side accounts which he uses?
And the lack of 'new content'? Wait for v1.2 for your content. Believe me, it's awesome xD
But. I'm sorry that you feel the need to have some sort of explanation for giant tacos and ORLY RALY owls and all that jazz. I honestly don't find it at all unbearable.
Though I do believe that Storm is taking WH a little too seriously, I also think that Cheshire's taking it with too much sugar. WH has GREAT potential. It's past Beta stage- I don't think that an update every 10 months will help with that. A majority of the players on WH are inactive, and the staff is not very well managed. It could be better, but Karl has decided he's got better things to do- who knows, maybe he does. I agree that an actual story would be a great addition to WH... Lots of things could be fixed up. I believe that Karlos is doing what he can for WH, but he needs another admin who will actually work and deal with the non-programming stuff.
WH's got potential... It's not using it's abilities right.
Keep it civil, please.
For the record, Karl previously said that 1.2 is a recode, and we would be unlikely to see any actual new content until 1.3. So, either he lied, or we're not getting new content. Take your pick.
And please, remember what qualifies as 'content' - that PvP system we saw? Not new content, just a recode of a previous system. The message system? Recode. Forums? Recode. New content would be like, say, the boss fight feature was when it was originally added. It was something entirely new.
And let the record show that I never made any complaints about the supposed existence of a legendary taco, nor did I even mention the owls. Heck, I didn't even comment on their anatomy or artwork. Don't try to put words in my mouth.
And Chesh, it would be a lot easier to believe Karl was doing things if we saw results. As stated, we haven't seen much. Menu change, challenge removal... I think we'd all prefer something more like, new content. I mean, alright, nobody used challenges. That doesn't mean time needed to be spent removing them. And the menus? Not exactly necessary, or even asked for. Whereas almost no suggestions have ever been implemented; I can count the number on one hand.
And Chesh, keep it to the comments. 'Professionalism', remember? Doesn't look good if you resort to sarcastic messages on W-H.
For a final note, I'll leave you with this: I'd find it a lot harder to criticize W-H, and Karl's work, if I couldn't rob half the players and packs on the site at will. Or destroy the majority of the packs. Or obliterate the forums. Or even be mates with myself, for that matter.
"I also think that Cheshire's taking it with too much sugar."
I absolutely love W-H. xD If I take it with sugar, it's because I view it as such.
"but he needs another admin who will actually work and deal with the non-programming stuff."
Now this is something I agree with 100%. But there will be changes in staff with time.
Now to Stormgaze...
"Keep it civil, please."
.__. 'There can be no high civility without a deep morality'. Morality in which you seem to lack, as you stated here, "
For a final note, I'll leave you with this: I'd find it a lot harder to criticize W-H, and Karl's work, if I couldn't rob half the players and packs on the site at will. Or destroy the majority of the packs. Or obliterate the forums. Or even be mates with myself, for that matter."
"And let the record show that I never made any complaints about the supposed existence of a legendary taco, nor did I even mention the owls."
I wasn't trying to imply that you said that, nor was I even adressing my statement to you.
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