Alright, alright, I admit - it was actually seven pickles. But the rest of it is completely true! Yeah...
I'll admit, I'm wondering what Karl will pull, or if he'll just ignore it and do nothing. Quite honestly, I expect some lame rickroll or something. I mean, Google rickrolled the entire world a few years back; hard to top that and all. Speaking of
Is it just me, or has there been massive lag on W-H lately? Even when not that many people are on, there seem to be huge bursts where nothing will load. I'd say Karl updating things might cause it, but he's not typically on whenever it happens, not to mention I doubt we'll see any updates until 1.2. Whenever that is. It does sound like he may be making progress, according to his Twitter, but it's hard to tell.
It's probably a bad sign for W-H's future that 4 out of the 5 players on the top 5 are no longer playing, whether banned or just having quit. Of course, Kara does have a tendency to be a massive drama queen and pull stunts like this where she pretends to quit for a while and then comes back. But still, my point remains.
As you all know, Spleafnet is shit and has been down for months, with occasional brief periods of uptime. This, of course, means that my guide is inaccessible half the time or so. Which, inevitably, leads to somebody asking me 'why don't you move your guide?' several times every day. And, honestly, I'm getting tired of answering that, so from now on I'm just going to direct people to this entry.
I don't see any motivation on my part to move my guide. What do I get out of it? Not that I'm trying to sound selfish, but think for a moment here - I wrote and coded my guide in my spare time, for absolutely no gain whatsoever. No cash, no points, heck, I didn't even get any DP out of it. Zero gain for the effort; after all, I already knew the info. I did it because there was a need for a guide, because some players needed help. I would pull a line about the goodness of my heart, but I think we all know I don't have a heart.
I don't think there's any argument that my guide is useful; even Karl has admitted that. It is handy to have a list of levels, or gear, or quests at your fingertips, even if some of the other information isn't accessed as widely. And it used to be a great place to direct all those noobs in chat asking 'what do I do' back when it was actually up most of the time.
And yet, for all of that, Karl himself is openly hostile to the entire thing. Did you know that any staff member of W-H who links to my guide will immediately lose their position? I'm serious. He's done everything short of banning links to it altogether, though I'm sure he'll get around to that eventually. The 'official' argument is that guides like mine ruin the fun of the game. Yeah. Actual tutorials on how to play ruin the fun of running around as a clueless noob because there's no instructions on the site itself. Except, of course, the FAQ, which was entirely ripped from my guide by Karl, and he refused to give me credit for it, as well. Are you beginning to see a pattern here?
Look at things from my perspective here: cheating seems to be fine with Karl, but educating people how to play the game? Bad. Yes, that seems ridiculously counter-productive concerning the interests of W-H as a whole - and it is - but that's still what's going on. Of course, I'm sure he's got some persuasive speech that'll make it look like everything I've said here is completely wrong. Or maybe he'll just ignore it. I don't really care.
So, when you're asking me to continue with my guide, you're actually asking me to put up with all this. If you've ever been around the internet, you'll have realized that most guides that admins are hostile to don't last very long. It's both difficult and discouraging to run a guide to a site where the staff openly oppose you. I mean, guides basically help the site, and, as I said before, no profit on my part. So sorry if I don't subscribe to 'love thy enemy' crap or something like that.
Also, you don't really need me to move it. You've got the quest/gear/level info here, which was the most important stuff. Since Karl hasn't added any new content since 1.1 (wasn't that like, over half a year ago?), there's hardly anything extra for me to write about. And most of the things can be figured out by common sense anyway.
What about the newbies? I'll be blunt. If Karl doesn't want me to educate them, then he may deal with them himself. I don't care enough anymore. It's hard to have faith in W-H after all of this, you know? Most of the time I'm just amazed the site hasn't fallen apart yet.
So, you want me to move my guide? Too bad. It's not happening. Go pray that Spleafnet comes back up or something, because I'm done. I refuse to expend more effort and time writing a guide to a site that is opposing me. Call me selfish if you want, but I'm not doing any more without some kind of motivation on my part.
If you want to discuss this, go ahead, but my decision isn't changing; I haven't even listed half the issues I've got with W-H. Otherwise, please shut up and stop complaining. I already did enough for you with no gain. I am not your personal slave; I don't have to do any of this. Be grateful for what you have.
7 comments:
Would you ever even think of letting someone *else* move the guide for you?
Probably not. I mean, I've had enough issues with other people taking credit for my work; I just don't want to deal with the situations that would come up.
Not to mention that while I have backups of the DATA on Spleafnet, the actual text and things... no. It'd pretty much have to be re-written from scratch.
Of course, I can't stop anyone if they go out and make their own guide site, nor do I really care as long as they don't rip info from mine. I wouldn't recommend it, though, because you'd be stuck with the same issues with Karl.
I doubt that Storm. I think we both know why TC was really dropped. It has nothing to do with Karlos's alleged hate for knowledge.
After all, you forget to mention that back in the day Tempests Call was an affiliate, Karl helped pay it's upgrade fees so there wouldn‘t be ads, helped to provide you with some of the information included, and that there was even a link to it on WH’s map right below the directional arrows.
Anyone around at the time with a lick of common sense knows that TC fell from grace because of blogs just like this one. You abused Karlos’s trust with a blog on TC that attacked the staff and game and after that did you really expect him to encourage a site you could easily abuse to malign him again? If you’d posted what was in that blog (and many of these) on WH’s forums you would have been banned.
And don’t pretend not to know what I’m talking about… You knew you’d crossed a line or else that post would still be in the archive of the old Webs version of the site. Instead it mysteriously disappeared a few weeks later. Maybe I’m completely out of line but my feel on the situation has always been that Karlos was trying to avoid drama and simply end the affiliation quietly. Obviously he’d have been much better off just dealing with it publicly though if you’re going to try spinning things this way now.
If someone else created a new guide I don't think there'd be an issue, and if there was it's my opinion that we could thank you Storm for destroying any faith the staff has in offsite resources.
I want to rewrite most of the guide all over again. If I used bits of yours to make sure I wasn't doing it wrong, would that be OK?
Gotcha.
@Gwen
I don't really like the idea of my guide being used as a reference point that much. For example, if you take my guide, and retype the entire thing so that it's in your 'voice' or whatever... it's still my guide, just paraphrased. That's still theft, y'know?
Having said that, the fact remains that I don't actually 'own' the info in the guide, because it relates to W-H. So I can't restrict it. At what point is the line between 'copying my guide in another voice' and 'using the info to write a unique guide' drawn? Honestly, I don't really know. It's hard to separate out what's hard info and what's my writing at some points.
The fact remains, though, that I can't really stop anyone. Karl would never side with me, and I'm not going to sue over anything so small.
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As an afterthought, I probably should have mentioned before that before anyone even tries to make their own guide, they'd need to check with Karl. You'd need permission to get past the anti-advertising rules AND to use W-H's info/images. And, honestly, I don't see Karl giving that permission out now that his 'official' stance is that guides are bad.
@Imaginary Giraffe
Sorry I didn't reply sooner. Your comment triggered the spam filter (apparently it tried to go through twice) and I didn't notice.
While this isn't really the ideal place for a full discussion, I'm going to have to say that you're incorrect.
The blog entry in question didn't attack the site itself or the staff, only one decision that was added - namely, the PvP limit (I believe it was something like you could only attack people 20 levels below you and above).
The reason the entry is no longer present is because I deleted it because it no longer made any sense, because said limit was removed the day after the entry was posted, and replaced with a system that I actually supported. I ended up getting messages from people thinking I was referring to the new system, who didn't understand why I was objecting to it, as it made sense. I got tired of answering it and simply removed the entry. It had nothing to do with crossing a line. I mean, knowing me, do you really think I'd remove something because Karl disagreed with it?
Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, so go ahead and believe what you want. After all, I've got no problem with people saying what they think, provided it doesn't fall into flaming.
As for the issue going away if anyone else made a guide, that would be a lot more feasible except for the fact that the staff rules don't just say 'no linking to TC'. It's 'no linking to guide sites, period.'
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